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Object

Second Deposit LDP

Strategic Policy - SP1: Strategic Growth

Representation ID: 5920

Received: 14/04/2023

Respondent ID: 2370

Respondent: Rhanbarth Sir Gâr Cymdeithas yr Iaith

Legally compliant? Not specified

Sound? Not specified

Representation Summary:

Credwn nad yw elfennau allweddol o’r cynllun diwygiedig yn seiliedig ar dystiolaeth gadarn, a bod tipyn o waith i’w wneud i sicrhau dyfodol hyfyw i’r Gymraeg cyn i’r Cyngor gyflwyno’r Cynllun Adneuo i’r Llywodraeth. Nid oes unrhyw ddadansoddiad o sut y gall creu nifer sylweddol o swyddi mewn un gornel o’r sir gyflawni’r nod o atal yr allfudiad difrifol o bobl ifainc o’n cymunedau ledled y sir. Camgymeriad sylfaenol yw fod y Cynllun yn trin adfywiad economaidd ac adfywiad iaith a chymunedol fel dau beth ar wahân yn lle ystyriaeth fanwl o ba fath ar ddatblygu economaidd a fydd o fudd pennaf i’r iaith ac i’n cymunedau. Er bod "gwarchod, gwella a hyrwyddo'r Gymraeg a hunaniaeth ddiwylliannol" yn un o Amcanion Strategol y Cynllun dydy cynnwys y Cynllun ei hun ddim yn adlewyrchu hynny. Ymhellach, mae Strategaeth Hybu’r Gymraeg y Cyngor yn cynnwys y nod o wneud y Gymraeg yn brif iaith y sir. Dydy’r Cynllun Datblygu Lleol ddim yn cyfeirio at hynny o gwbl, ac yn gweithio yn erbyn hynny.
Ymhellach, mae Strategaeth Hybu’r Gymraeg y Cyngor yn cynnwys y nod o wneud y Gymraeg yn brif iaith y sir. Dydy’r Cynllun Datblygu Lleol ddim yn cyfeirio at hynny o
gwbl, ac yn gweithio yn erbyn hynny.
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We believe that key elements of the revised plan are not based on hard evidence, and that there is a long way to go to ensure a viable future for the Welsh language before the Council submits the Deposit Scheme to the Government. There is no analysis of how creating a significant number of jobs in one corner of the county can achieve the goal of preventing the severe exodus of young people from our communities across the county. A fundamental mistake is that the Plan treats economic regeneration and language and community regeneration as two separate things instead of giving detailed consideration into what kind of economic development will best benefit the language and our communities. Although "protecting, enhancing and promoting the Welsh language and cultural identity" is one of the Strategic Objectives of the Plan, the content of the Plan itself does not reflect that.
Furthermore, the Council's Welsh Language Promotion Strategy includes the aim of making Welsh the main language of the county. The LDP does not refer to that at all and works against it.

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Our response:

Mae'r angen am dai wedi'i nodi trwy dystiolaeth gadarn. Darperir rhagor o wybodaeth drwy sylfaen dystiolaeth a phapurau pwnc y Cynllun. Mae asesiad effaith ar y Gymraeg o'r Ail Gynllun Adnau ynghyd â'r diweddariad tystiolaeth Gymraeg yn rhoi dadansoddiad o effeithiau disgwyliedig y cynllun ar y Gymraeg.

Gellir rhoi ystyriaeth bellach wrth archwilio'r Cynllun.

The housing need has been identified through robust evidence. Further information is provided through the Plan's evidence base and topic papers. A Welsh language impact assessment of the 2nd Deposit Plan along with the Welsh language evidence update provide an analysis of the anticipated impacts of the plan on the Welsh language.

Further consideration can be given at the examination of the Plan.

Object

Second Deposit LDP

9. A New Strategy

Representation ID: 5921

Received: 14/04/2023

Respondent ID: 2370

Respondent: Rhanbarth Sir Gâr Cymdeithas yr Iaith

Legally compliant? Not specified

Sound? Not specified

Representation Summary:

Fel gyda’r yr ail Gynllun gwrieddiol, mae’n anodd peidio â dod i’r casgliad i’r Cyngor Sir ofyn faint o dai fyddai eu hangen er mwyn cyflawni amcanion ei strategaeth adfywio gan fod nifer y tai wedi ei seilio ar Adroddiad Tai a Thwf Economaidd (Twf Poblogaeth) Turley.
Mae’r cynllun yn cydnabod y bu dirywiad sylweddol yn nifer y siaradwyr Cymraeg dros y degawdau diwethaf, felly rhaid gofyn pam bod yr ail Gynllun Datblygu Lleol wedi ei seilio ar amcanestyniad deng mlynedd yn Adroddiad Tai a Thwf Economaidd (Twf Poblogaeth) Turley. Roedd y Cynllun Datblygu Lleol cyntaf wedi ei seilio ar amcanestyniad poblogaeth hefyd, ac yn cynllunio ar gyfer twf. Mae’r Cynllun Adneuo’n disgwyl twf o 14,468 ym mhoblogaeth y Sir a bod angen 8,822 o dai er mwyn cyflawni amcan o greu 4,140 o swyddi.
Anghytunwn gyda'r Opsiwn a Ffefrir, sef Strategaeth Twf Cynaliadwy a Chymuned Gytbwys felly. Bydd canolbwyntio'r twf mewn dwy ardal yn nwyrain y sir, Llain Arfordirol Llanelli ac ardal Rhydaman / Cross Hands, yn annog mewnlifiad trwy greu pentrefi cymudwyr.
Mae'r Adroddiad ar yr Ymgynghoriad Cychwynnol yn nodi, mewn ymateb i sylwadau Cymdeithas yr Iaith i bryderon am seilio Cynllun Datblygu Lleol ar gynllun economaidd: "Further evidence will be produced to inform the economic needs of the County and its impacts upon the County's housing needs."
Mae sylwadau Llywodraeth Cymru i’r ymgynghoriad gwreiddiol hefyd yn nodi: “Further evidence and explanation is required to explain how and where the level of job growth will be delivered, including both strategic and non strategic allocations. It is unclear what the level of employment provision is and for what sector and how this translates into a land requirement for employment uses. The current employment evidence base is inconsistent and unclear. “The authority must fully justify/evidence that the growth levels are directed to the most sustainable places, related to the scale and location of housing need, not impacting negatively on the Welsh language and is realistic and deliverable.”
Does dim cyfeiriad yn y dogfennau diweddaraf at dystiolaeth bellach o effaith nac anghenion yn sgil datblygiadau economaidd.
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As with the second original Plan, it is difficult not to conclude that the County Council asked how much housing would be needed to achieve the objectives of its regeneration strategy, as the number of houses is based on Turley's Housing and Economic Growth (Population Growth) Report.
The plan recognises that there has been a significant decline in the number of Welsh speakers in recent decades, therefore one must ask why the second LDP is based on a ten-year projection in Turley's Housing and Economic Growth (Population Growth) Report. The first LDP was also based on a population projection, and it planned for growth. The Deposit Plan expects a growth of 14,468 in the County's population and that 8,822 houses are needed to achieve an objective of creating 4,140 jobs.
We disagree with the Preferred Option, which is a Balanced Community and Sustainable Growth Strategy. Focusing growth in two areas in the east of the county, the Llanelli Coastal Belt and the Ammanford / Cross Hands area, will encourage an influx through the creation of commuter villages.
The Report on the Initial Consultation states, in response to Cymdeithas yr Iaith's comments regarding concerns about basing a Local Development Plan on an economic plan: "Further evidence will be produced to inform the economic needs of the County and its impacts upon the County's housing needs."
The Welsh Government's comments regarding the original consultation also state:
"Further evidence and explanation is required to explain how and where the level of job growth will be delivered, including both strategic and non strategic allocations. It is unclear what the level of employment provision is and for what sector and how this translates into a land requirement for employment uses. The current employment evidence base is inconsistent and unclear.
"The authority must fully justify/evidence that the growth levels are directed to the most sustainable places, related to the scale and location of housing need, not impacting negatively on the Welsh language and is realistic and deliverable."
There is no reference in the latest documents to further evidence of impact nor to needs arising from economic developments.

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Our response:

Anghytuno. Mae'r strategaeth ofodol yn cael ei hystyried yn unol â Chymru'r Dyfodol - cynllun cenedlaethol 2040 ac mae'n ceisio canolbwyntio twf mewn aneddiadau mwy a chydnabwyd drwy'r ardaloedd twf cenedlaethol a rhanbarthol. Cyfeirir at sylfaen dystiolaeth y Cyngor, yn enwedig y papurau pwnc Dewisiadau Gofodol a Rôl a Swyddogaeth sy'n darparu'r rhesymeg dros ddosbarthu datblygiadau yn y sir.

Mae'r Papur Pwnc Amcanestyniad Poblogaeth ac Aelwydydd a'r dystiolaeth a gynhwysir yn yr adroddiad Tai a Thwf Economaidd yn nodi'r ystyriaethau hysbysu a'r cyfiawnhad dros amcanestyniadau poblogaeth ac aelwydydd ar gyfer y Sir.

Wrth asesu a nodi'r gofyniad am dai ar gyfer y Cynllun ac yn unol â Pholisi Cynllunio Cymru, defnyddiwyd amcanestyniadau lefel awdurdodau lleol LlC fel man cychwyn.

Roedd yr Adroddiad Tai a Thwf Economaidd yn ceisio adolygu ac asesu priodoldeb poblogaeth a thafluniadau aelwydydd diweddaraf Llywodraeth Cymru ar gyfer Sir Gaerfyrddin a cheisiodd hefyd ddarparu cyfres amgen o dystiolaeth ddemograffig a thueddol i'w hystyried. Mae'r Cyngor o'r farn bod gofyniad tai priodol a chyflawnadwy o fewn y CDLl Diwygiedig Adnau yn gallu cyflawni amcanion a pholisïau strategol y Cyngor; yn cadw'r ifanc yn y sir; yn cyflawni ar gyfer anghenion ein holl gymunedau trefol a gwledig; ac yn rhoi cyfle i greu swyddi, ymhlith eraill. Ystyrir y berthynas rhwng twf cartrefi a thwf economaidd ymhellach ym mhapur pwnc Twf a Dosbarthiad Gofodol Rhan 2: Creu Swyddi a'r economi.

Bydd ystyriaeth bellach yn cael ei roi wrth archwilio'r Cynllun.

Disagree. The spatial strategy is considered in accordance with Future Wales - the national plan 2040 and seeks to focus growth in larger settlements identified through the national and regional growth areas. Reference is drawn to the Council's evidence base, in particular the Spatial Options and the Role and Function Topic papers which provides the rationale for the distribution of development within the county.

The Population and Household Projection Topic Paper and the evidence contained within the Housing and Economic Growth sets out the informing considerations and the justification for the population and household projections for the County.

In assessing and identifying the housing requirement for the Plan and in accordance with Planning Policy Wales the WG-based local authority level projections were utilised as a starting point.

The Housing and Economic Growth Report sought to review and assess the appropriateness of the latest WG population and household projections for Carmarthenshire and sought to also provide an alternative suite of demographic and trend-based evidence to consider.

The Council considers that an appropriate and deliverable housing requirement within the Deposit Revised LDP factors in the ability to meet the strategic objectives and policies of the Council, retains the young within the county, delivers for the needs of all our communities both urban and rural, and provides the opportunity for job creation, amongst others. The relationship between household growth and economic growth is further considered in the Growth and Spatial Distribution Part 2: Job creation and the economy.

Further consideration will be given at the examination of the Plan.

Object

Second Deposit LDP

Strategic Policy – SP 8: Welsh Language and Culture

Representation ID: 5922

Received: 14/04/2023

Respondent ID: 2370

Respondent: Rhanbarth Sir Gâr Cymdeithas yr Iaith

Legally compliant? Not specified

Sound? Not specified

Representation Summary:

Er bod “Asesiad Effaith ar yr Iaith Gymraeg, Rhagfyr 2019” bellach wedi ei gyhoeddi ymddengys nad yw Asesiad o Effaith CDLl diwygiedig Adneuo Drafft Sir Gaerfyrddin
ar y Gymraeg, 2023, ar gael.
Dyma fyddai’r dystiolaeth fwyaf perthnasol o ran y Gymraeg.
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Although a "Welsh Language Impact Assessment, December 2019" has now been published it appears that Carmarthenshire's Draft Deposit Revised LDP - Welsh Language Impact Assessment, 2023, is not available.
This would be the most relevant evidence regarding the Welsh language

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Our response:

Fe wnaeth y Cyngor cyhoeddi Asesiad o Effaith yr Ail Fersiwn Adneuo Drafft o Gynulln Datblygu Lleol Diwygiedig Sir Gaerfyrddin ar y Gymraeg (Rhagfyr 2022). Mae diweddariad i'r tystiolaeth wedi ei paratoi ers hynny.

The Council published the Revised Carmarthenshire Local Development Plan Draft Second Deposit Welsh Language Impact Assessment (December 2022). An update to the evidence has since been prepared.

Object

Second Deposit LDP

Strategic Policy – SP 8: Welsh Language and Culture

Representation ID: 5923

Received: 14/04/2023

Respondent ID: 2370

Respondent: Rhanbarth Sir Gâr Cymdeithas yr Iaith

Legally compliant? Not specified

Sound? Not specified

Representation Summary:

Mae geiriad polisi SP8 yn achos pryder:
“Ni fydd cynigion datblygu sy'n cael effaith anfanteisiol ar fywiogrwydd a hyfywedd y Gymraeg a diwylliant Cymru'n cael eu caniatáu oni bai y gellir lliniaru'r effaith.”
Trwy fynnu mesurau lliniaru mae cydnabod bod effaith negyddol i’r Gymraeg, ac yn unol â’u diffiniad, nid atal effaith negyddol fydd unrhyw fesurau lliniaru ond lleihau’r
effaith hynny.
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The wording of policy SP8 is a cause for concern:

"Development proposals which have a detrimental impact on the vitality and viability of the Welsh language and culture will not be permitted unless the impact can be mitigated."

By requiring mitigation measures it is recognised that there is a negative impact on the Welsh language, and according to their definition, any mitigation measures will not prevent a negative impact but rather minimise that impact.

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Our response:

Pwrpas mesuaru lliniaru yw i amddiffyn yr iaith Gymraeg rhag effeithiau niwedidiol datblygiad. Gellir rhoi ystyriaeth pellach i'r mater yn ystod yr archwiliad.

The purpose of mitigation measures is to protect the Welsh language from harmful effects of development. Further consideration can be given to the matter at examination.

Support

Second Deposit LDP

11.173

Representation ID: 5924

Received: 14/04/2023

Respondent ID: 2370

Respondent: Rhanbarth Sir Gâr Cymdeithas yr Iaith

Representation Summary:

Mae Cymdeithas yr Iaith yn croesawu penderfyniad y Cyngor Sir i ddynodi’r sir gyfan yn ardal yn ieithyddol sensitif eto ond mae angen i’r Cynllun adlewyrchu mor fregus yw’r cymunedau hynny, trwy seilio’r Cynllun ar angen am dai.
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Cymdeithas yr Iaith welcomes the County Council's decision to designate the whole county as a linguistically sensitive area again but the Plan needs to reflect the vulnerability of those communities, by basing the Plan on housing need.

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Our response:

Yn croesawi'r cefnogaeth.
Support is welcomed.

Object

Second Deposit LDP

11.174

Representation ID: 5925

Received: 14/04/2023

Respondent ID: 2370

Respondent: Rhanbarth Sir Gâr Cymdeithas yr Iaith

Legally compliant? Not specified

Sound? Not specified

Representation Summary:

Tra yn cytuno ag amcan cymal 11.174 i greu swyddi a chyfleoedd er mwyn galluogi pobl i aros yn y sir anghytunwn bod y twf sy'n cael ei gynllunio yn "gynaliadwy" ac y bydd y Cynllun yn "cynyddu i'r eithaf y cyfleoedd i siaradwyr di-Gymraeg sy'n symud i mewn i'r Sir gael eu hintegreiddio i fywyd cymunedol ar raddfa a chyflymder na fydd yn tanseilio bywiogrwydd a hyfywedd y Gymraeg a diwylliant Cymru.”
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Whilst agreeing with the objective of para 11.174 to create jobs and opportunities to enable people to stay in the county, we disagree that the growth being planned is "sustainable" and that the Plan will "maximise opportunities for non-Welsh speakers who move to the County to be integrated into community life at a scale and pace that will not undermine the vitality and viability of the Welsh language and culture."

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Our response:

Mae polisi SP8 a WL1 yn amlinellu canllaw ar sut gall mesurau cael eu gweithredu i arwain datblygu cynaliadwy ac yn gofyn am wybodaeth bellach yn sgil cais o dan amgylchiadau penodol er mwyn galluogi ystyriaeth bellach o effeithiau datblygiad arfaethedig. Bydd hyn yn cael ei gefnogi gan Ganllaw Cynllunio Atodol.

Policy SP8 and WL1 outline guidance on how measures can be implemented to guide sustainable development and requires further information to be submitted with an application under certain circumstances to enable further consideration of the impacts of proposed development. This will be supported by SPG.

Support

Second Deposit LDP

11.174

Representation ID: 5926

Received: 14/04/2023

Respondent ID: 2370

Respondent: Rhanbarth Sir Gâr Cymdeithas yr Iaith

Representation Summary:

Tra yn cytuno ag amcan cymal 11.174 i greu swyddi a chyfleoedd er mwyn galluogi pobl i aros yn y sir anghytunwn bod y twf sy'n cael ei gynllunio yn "gynaliadwy" ac y bydd y Cynllun yn "cynyddu i'r eithaf y cyfleoedd i siaradwyr di-Gymraeg sy'n symud i mewn i'r Sir gael eu hintegreiddio i fywyd cymunedol ar raddfa a chyflymder na fydd yn tanseilio bywiogrwydd a hyfywedd y Gymraeg a diwylliant Cymru.”
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Whilst agreeing with the objective of para 11.174 to create jobs and opportunities to enable people to stay in the county, we disagree that the growth being planned is "sustainable" and that the Plan will "maximise opportunities for non-Welsh speakers who move to the County to be integrated into community life at a scale and pace that will not undermine the vitality and viability of the Welsh language and culture."

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Our response:

Yn croesawi'r cefnogaeth.
Support is welcomed.

Object

Second Deposit LDP

11.176

Representation ID: 5927

Received: 14/04/2023

Respondent ID: 2370

Respondent: Rhanbarth Sir Gâr Cymdeithas yr Iaith

Legally compliant? Not specified

Sound? Not specified

Representation Summary:

Pryderwn bod cymal 11.176 yn nodi y bydd:
“ceisio sicrhau bod datblygu'n mynd rhagddo ar raddfa y gellir ei derbyn a'i chymhathu heb niweidio cymeriad y gymuned.”
Mae “ceisio sicrhau” yn groes i’r egwyddor yng nghymal 11.174 y bydd integreiddio ar raddfa gynaliadwy.
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We are concerned that para 11.176 states that:
"…will seek to ensure that development occurs at a rate which can be absorbed and assimilated without damaging the character of the community."

"Seeking to ensure" is contrary to the principle in clause 11.174 that integration will be on a sustainable scale.

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Our response:

Mae amcanion y ddau baragraff yn gydnaws.
The objectives of both paragraphs are compatible.

Object

Second Deposit LDP

WL1: Welsh Language and New Developments

Representation ID: 5928

Received: 14/04/2023

Respondent ID: 2370

Respondent: Rhanbarth Sir Gâr Cymdeithas yr Iaith

Legally compliant? Not specified

Sound? Not specified

Representation Summary:

Mae'n galonogol bod y polisi ei hun yn glir mai bwriad y Cynllun Gweithredu Iaith Gymraeg fyddai nodi mesurau "i ddiogelu, hyrwyddo a gwella'r Gymraeg", ond mae cymal 11.179 yn cyfeirio at “fesurau lliniaru” Cynllun Gweithredu, sy’n awgrym mai mesurau lliniaru sydd mewn golwg mewn gwirionedd.
Yn ogystal, nodwn eto bod Strategaeth Hybu’r Gymraeg y cyngor yn gosod nod o wneud y Gymraeg yn brif iaith y sir, ac nad yw polisi WL1 yn cyd-fynd â hynny.
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It is encouraging that the policy itself is clear that the intention of the Welsh Language Action Plan would be to set out measures "to safeguard, promote and enhance the Welsh language", but para 11.179 refers to the Action Plan’s "mitigation measures", which suggests that it is mitigation measures that are actually in mind.
Additionally, we also note that the Council's Welsh Language Action plan sets the target of making Welsh the main language within the County, and policy WL1 doesn't align with this.

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Our response:

Credir bod y gwrthwynebiad yn ymwneud â'r defnydd o fesurau lliniaru sy'n cael eu hystyried yn anghydnaws â'r nod cyffredinol i ddiogelu, hyrywddo a gwella'r iaieth Gymraeg. Ond gall fesurau lliniaru cael eu defnyddio i amddiffyn yr iaith rhag effeithiau datblygiadau.

It is believed that the objection relates to the use of mitigation measures which are not considered compatible with the overall aim to safeguard, promote and enhance the Welsh language. However, mitigation measures can be used to protect the Welsh language from he impacts of development.

Object

Second Deposit LDP

11.179

Representation ID: 5929

Received: 14/04/2023

Respondent ID: 2370

Respondent: Rhanbarth Sir Gâr Cymdeithas yr Iaith

Legally compliant? Not specified

Sound? Not specified

Representation Summary:

Mae'n galonogol bod y polisi ei hun yn glir mai bwriad y Cynllun Gweithredu Iaith Gymraeg fyddai nodi mesurau "i ddiogelu, hyrwyddo a gwella'r Gymraeg", ond mae cymal 11.179 yn cyfeirio at “fesurau lliniaru” Cynllun Gweithredu, sy’n awgrym mai mesurau lliniaru sydd mewn golwg mewn gwirionedd.
Yn ogystal, nodwn eto bod Strategaeth Hybu’r Gymraeg y cyngor yn gosod nod o wneud y Gymraeg yn brif iaith y sir, ac nad yw polisi WL1 yn cyd-fynd â hynny.
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It is encouraging that the policy itself is clear that the intention of the Welsh Language Action Plan would be to set out measures "to safeguard, promote and enhance the Welsh language", but para 11.179 refers to the Action Plan’s "mitigation measures", which suggests that it is mitigation measures that are actually in mind.
Additionally, we also note that the Council's Welsh Language Action plan sets the target of making Welsh the main language within the County, and policy WL1 doesn't align with this.

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Our response:

Credir bod y gwrthwynebiad yn ymwneud â'r defnydd o fesurau lliniaru sy'n cael eu hystyried yn anghydnaws â'r nod cyffredinol i ddiogelu, hyrywddo a gwella'r iaieth Gymraeg. Ond gall fesurau lliniaru cael eu defnyddio i amddiffyn yr iaith rhag effeithiau datblygiadau.

It is believed that the objection relates to the use of mitigation measures which are not considered compatible with the overall aim to safeguard, promote and enhance the Welsh language. However, mitigation measures can be used to protect the Welsh language from he impacts of development.

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