SuV55/h2

Concerns over the site in the Plan

Good morning, I am unable to comment on the .Gov site due to 'no access'.

In terms of LDP for SuV44/h1 Tir i gefn o Talar Wen
 SuV55/h2 Tir i gefn Maes Glas
 SuV55/hs Tir i’r Gogledd o Dafarn Cross Inn

My concerns are mainly due to the poor water supply in area whereby properties are regularly without water due to low pressure, is the infrastructure in these sites able to manage this?
Also, the glandy cross complex is a place of historic / heritage interest hope this will be considered carefully.

Many thanks

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No specific change noted

Sylwadau cyffredinol yw’r canlynol, gan Gyngor Cymuned Cilymaenllwyd yn ymateb i’r ymgynghoriad ar Ail Gynllun Datblygu Lleol Adneuo Diwygiedig Cyngor Sir Caerfyrddin.

Mae’r sylwadau yn perthyn yn benodol i’r 3 safle o fewn cymuned Cilymaenllwyd a ddyrannwyd yng Nghlwstwr 6, fel y nodwyd yn nhabl 23 (tudalen 87 o’r ddogfen ymgynghorol), sef:

SuV44/h1 Tir i gefn o Talar Wen
SuV55/h2 Tir i gefn Maes Glas
SuV55/hs Tir i’r Gogledd o Dafarn Cross Inn

I ddechrau, mae tai Efailwen a Glandy Cross yn cael problemau gyda’u cyflenwad dŵr yn achlysurol oherwydd gwasgedd dŵr isel iawn, yn enwedig mewn cyfnodau o sychder, sy’n creu llawer o rwystredigaeth ymysg trigolion. Mae hyn felly’n codi’r cwestiwn a all y datblygiadau arfaethaedig yn y safleoedd dan sylw ymdopi â’r galw cynyddol hwn am ddŵr? Mae'r systemau carthffosiaeth yn hunangynaliadwy ond mae'r system ddŵr yn barod o dan straen. Teimlir nad yw'r isadeiledd presennol yn ddigonol fel ag y mae. Mae’r pridd hefyd yn yr ardal yn llawn clai sy’n achosi problemau draenio a allai achosi llawer o ddŵr i gronni ar y ffyrdd mewn cyfnodau o law trwm.

Rhaid hefyd ystyried yr effaith ddiwyllianol, ieithyddol a chymunedol ar y pentref a’r gymuned ehangach. Mae sawl tŷ ar werth yn y pentref ar hyn o bryd a nifer helaeth o'r rhain wedi’u prynu eisioes gan bobl sydd wedi symud i'r ardal, gan amlaf yn ddi-Gymraeg. Mae natur ieithyddol yr ysgol gynradd leol o ganlyniad wedi newid yn syfrdanol ers y 5 mlynedd diwetha.

Fodd bynnag, mae nifer o'r tai sydd ar werth yn ddrud ac nid ydynt yn cael eu hystyried yn dai fforddiadwy. Efallai byddai’r datblygiad yn denu, neu’n galluogi pobl leol a theuluoedd â chanddyn nhw blant ifanc, i brynu, aros neu ddychwelyd i'r ardal, am bris teg wrth gwrs.

Teimlir yn gryf bod angen ystyried sut bydd y Cyngor Sir yn mynd ati i roi blaenoriaeth i bobl leol sydd wedi cael eu magu yn yr ardal. Ni fyddai datblygwr sy’n adeiladu tai ar y tir, ac yna’n eu gwerthu ymlaen am bris sydd y tu hwnt i gyrraedd pobl leol, yn datrys y sefyllfa o gwbl. Efallai y byddai’n fuddiol i’r Cyngor ystyried y posibilrwydd o adeiladu tai i’w rhentu am bris teg wrth wneud yn siwr mai pobl sydd wedi cael eu codi ac yn gweitho yn yr ardal fyddai’n cael blaenoriaeth. Nid oes tai cyngor ar gael yn yr ardal am eu bod wedi cael eu gwerthu. Pe byddai hyn yn opsiwn byddai’n rhaid gwneud yn siwr bod polisi lleol mewn grym i wneud yn siwr mai pobl leol byddai’n cael cynnig y tai hyn. Mewn nifer o ardaloedd mae adeiladu tai wedi arwain at gynyddu niferoedd y mewnfudwyr i’r ardal a cholli ein pobl a’n teuluoedd ifanc – cylch na all cymunedau gwledig ei reoli na dylanwadu arno ar hyn o bryd.

Ategir y sylwadau uchod drachefn: os yw’n fwriad i fwrw ymlaen â’r datblygiadau hyn yn y 3 safle uchod, mae’n hanfodol bwysig eu bod yn dai fforddiadwy er mwyn cadw ein pobl ifanc yn yr ardal. Modd llwyddiannus byddai cynnig tai ar rent. Pwy fydd yn cael y contract adeiladu? Yn aml mae’r rhain yn mynd i gwmnïoedd mawr, nid adeiladwyr lleol, felly ddim yn cefnogi’r economi leol. Beth am effaith y mewnlifiad ar ein diwylliant? Yn aml mae pobl o bant yn prynu, yn enwedig gyda phobl erbyn hyn yn gallu gweithio gartref, gan fod y tai yn llawer rhatach yn y parthau hyn o gymharu â’r ardaloedd maen nhw’n symud oddi wrthyn nhw. Mae’r effaith i’w weld yn amlwg ar ein cymuned a’i Chymreictod yn erydu o un ddegawd i’r llall.

Mae cyfrifiad 2022 yn dangos bod 51% o drigolion Cilymaenllwyd yn siarad Cymraeg a 53% yn gallu siarad, darllen neu ysgrifennu Cymraeg. Gyda hyn mewn golwg, mae angen blaengynllunio cyfrifol a gofalus iawn a gosod polisïau fydd yn cefnogi pobl leol i allu aros yn lleol, yn hytrach na’u gwthio allan o fro eu mebyd. Mae angen i’r polisïau a’r cynlluniau fod yn rhai sydd wir yn gwarchod yr hyn sydd gyda ni; nid rhai sy’n cyfrannu at ddirywiad diwylliannol a ieithyddol pellach.

Nid gwrthwynebiad i’r datblygiadau arfaethedig yw’r sylwadau hyn ond apêl cymuned am waith datblygu sydd yn sensitif i anghenion a chymeriad y gymuned; sy’n ychwanegu at gynaliadwyedd y gymuned; sy’n ateb anghenion ein pobl leol; nid gwaith datblygu a allai arwain at newid cymeriad unigryw’r gymuned.

Mae Cyngor Cymuned Cilymaenllwyd yn awyddus i wneud y gymuned yn lle dymunol i’w phobl leol fyw a gweithio ynddi; cynyddu’r cyfleoedd i bobl allu cyfrannu’n gadarnhaol mewn ffordd gynaliadwy a diogel er mwyn gwarchod y gymuned ar gyfer y genhedlaeth nesaf. I allu gwneud hynny, rhaid i’r Cynllun Datblygu Lleol allu cefnogi hynny.

Teimlwn ei bod yn bwysig bod Cyngor Sir Caerfyrddin yn clywed llais cymuned Cilymaenllwyd ynglŷn â’r Cynllun Datblygu hwn, a mawr obeithiwn y bydd y sylwadau hyn yn cael ystyriaeth deilwng.

The following are general comments by Cilymaenllwyd Community Council, responding to the consultation on Carmarthenshire County Council’s Second Deposit Revised Local Development Plan.

The comments relate specifically to the three sites within the community of Cilymaenllwyd that were allocated in Cluster 6, as noted in table 23 (page 87 of the consultation document), namely:

SuV44/h1 Land to the rear of Talar Wen
SuV55/h2 Land to the rear of Maes Glas
SuV55/hs Land to the north of the Cross Inn Pub

To begin, the houses of Efailwen and Glandy Cross occasionally have problems with their water supply, due to very low water pressure, especially in periods of drought, which causes much frustration among residents. Therefore, this raises the question of whether the proposed developments on the sites in question can cope with this increasing demand for water? The sewerage systems are self-sustainable but the water system is already under strain. It is felt that the current infrastructure is insufficient as it is. Also, the soil in the area is full of clay, which causes drainage problems that could cause a lot of water to accumulate on the roads during periods of heavy rain.

The cultural, linguistic and community effect on the village and wider community must also be considered. There are currently several houses for sale in the village and a vast number of houses have already been bought by people who have moved to the area, usually non-Welsh speakers. As a result, the linguistic nature of the local primary school has changed significantly in the last five years.

However, many of the houses that are for sale are expensive and they are not considered to be affordable housing. The development may attract or enable local people and families who have young children to buy, stay or return to the area, for a fair price of course.

It is strongly felt that there is a need to consider how the County Council will give priority to local people who have been raised in the area. A developer who builds houses on the land, and then sells them on for a price that is beyond the reach of local people, will not solve the situation at all. It may be beneficial for the Council to consider the possibility of building houses to be rented for a fair price, ensuring that people who have been raised and who work in the area have priority. There are no council houses available in the area as they have been sold. If this were an option, it would have to be ensured that there is a local policy in place to ensure that local people would be offered these houses. In many areas, building houses has led to increasing the number of immigrants to the area and losing our young people and families – a circle that rural communities cannot currently control or influence.

The above comments are reiterated: if it is intended to proceed with these developments on the three sites above, it is crucially important that they are affordable housing, in order to keep our young people in the area. A successful method would be to offer houses for rent. Who will have the building contract? These often go to large companies, not local builders, and therefore do not support the local economy. What about the effect of the influx on our culture? Often, people from away buy the houses, especially now that people can work from home, as they are much cheaper in these parts compared to the areas that they are moving from. The effect is clearly seen on our community and its Welshness, which is eroding from one decade to the next.

The 2022 census shows that 51% of the residents of Cilymaenllwyd speak Welsh and that 53% can speak, read or write Welsh. With this in mind, there is need for very responsible and careful forward planning and imposing policies that will support local people to be able to stay locally, rather than push them out of the area where they were raised. The policies and plans need to protect what we have, not contribute to further cultural and linguistic decline.

These comments are not an objection to the proposed developments but the appeal of a community for development work that is sensitive to the needs and character of the community; that adds to the sustainability of the community; that answers the needs of our local people; not development work that could lead to changing the unique character of the community.

Cilymaenllwyd Community Council is eager to make the community a pleasant place for its local people to live and work and increase the opportunities for people to be able to contribute positively in a sustainable and safe way, in order to protect the community for the next generation. To be able to do this, the Local Development Plant must be able to support that.

We feel that it is important that Carmarthenshire County Council hears the voice of the community of Cilymaenllwyd regarding this Development Plan and we very much hope that these comments will receive worthy consideration.

No change to the Plan

Thank you for consulting Welsh Water, we welcome the opportunity to continue to engage in the LDP process and we offer the following representation for your consideration:
Issues Identification We note and welcome the inclusion of issue 23 regarding infrastructure capacity to support development. The availability of our infrastructure capacity is a key element – particularly in rural areas - in ensuring sustainable and viable development sites.
Strategic Objectives The availability or capacity of infrastructure is a key aspect in determining the sustainability of a settlement, therefore we support the inclusion of SO6 and SO14.
Strategic Growth and Spatial Options We note that the Council identifies a growth requirement of 8,822 new homes over the revised LDP period 2018-2033.
Preferred Spatial Option Whilst we are supportive of the hybrid option and are pleased to note that it acknowledges the need for development to be supported by a range of appropriate infrastructure, there will inevitably be certain areas – particularly in the more rural locations of the County – where water or sewerage infrastructure is limited in its availability.
Placemaking, Infrastructure and Cohesive Communities We welcome the sentiment of paragraph 9.43. Where there is insufficient infrastructure capacity and development wishes to connect in advance of our AMP capital investment, planning obligations or a commercial agreement are the most appropriate way in ensuring delivery of necessary supporting infrastructure. We also welcome the inclusion of paragraph 9.47 and further commentary can be found in respect of the policy INF4.
Policies
SG1: Regeneration and Mixed-Use Sites Please see appendix 1 for site allocation comments.
SG2: Reserve Sites We note that the reserve sites will only be released for development if the allocations fail to deliver the required growth, and that the decision to utilise the sites will be made as part of a formal plan review. As such we will be happy to provide comments regarding capacity to accommodate sites in due course.
SG3: Pembrey Peninsula Most of the peninsula is unsewered and does not have a water supply with only elements of the southeast of the peninsula currently served by either. As such, any proposals for development may require significant offsite water mains and sewers to connect to existing networks. Further to this, the Pembrey Wastewater Treatment Works (WwTW) that serves the southeast of the peninsula may require additional capacity to accommodate any further development and developers may need to fund reinforcement works at the WwTW.
HOM1: Housing Allocations Please see appendix 1 for site allocation comments.
SP6: Strategic Sites Given that both sites have extant planning permission we have nothing specific to advise.
EME3: Employment Proposals on Allocated Sites The following provisions are applicable to all individual development plots located within allocated employment sites:
• We will work with your authority to support sustainable economic development however your authority and potential developers should be aware that the obligations of a water and sewerage undertaker extends to ‘domestic’ supplies only. Where an employment allocation results in higher demands of water supply and/or trade effluent discharges we recommend and welcome early consultation with Dwr Cymru Welsh Water.
• The individual plots available for development can represent a substantial area of land for which the potential demands upon our assets are unknown at present. It is essential that we understand these demands to allow us to assess the impact on our assets. It may be necessary for water and/or sewerage hydraulic modelling assessments (HMAs) to be undertaken at the developer’s expense to establish where the proposed development could connect to the existing networks, and to identify any required infrastructure improvements.
• Water mains and/or sewerage infrastructure required for any potential development site can be acquired through the requisition provisions of the Water Industry Act 1991 (as amended).
• Welsh Water always has rights of access to its assets. Where there are water mains and/or sewers crossing sites then protection measures in respect of these assets will be required, usually in the form of an easement width or in some instances a diversion of the asset.
• If any development site gives rise to a new discharge (or alters an existing discharge) of trade effluent, directly or indirectly to the public sewerage system, then a Discharge Consent under Section 118 of the Water Industry Act 1991 is required from Welsh Water. Please note that the issuing of a discharge consent is independent of the planning process and a consent may be refused despite planning permission being granted.
SP9: Infrastructure The availability or capacity of infrastructure is key in determining a settlement’s sustainability as such we welcome the provisions of this policy in requiring development to ensure sufficient capacity is available or if not, that suitable arrangements are in place to provide the necessary capacity.
With specific regard to water and sewerage infrastructure, where there is insufficient capacity and where no reinforcement works are programmed within the respective AMP Capital Investment Programme, the requisition provisions can be entered into for water and sewerage network infrastructure. The requisition provisions do not apply to wastewater treatment works (WwTW) and planning obligations, or a commercial agreement, may be necessary.
We welcome the reference in the supporting text to Drainage and Wastewater Management Plans (DWMPs). Welsh Water is embarking on the preparation of developing Drainage and Wastewater Management Plans (DWMP) which Welsh Government may be minded making statutory in due course. Growth information is built into our DWMP and forms an important element of our planning which aims to understand how we will continue to deliver effective sewerage services and manage the proactive development of natural flood management for a growing population in the face of climate change and other challenges.
Critically the DWMP considers the impact of changing population on our assets and the subsequent effect to customers and on the environment. As such we believe that the DWMPs will play a role in delivering a holistic, prioritised approach to the management of our drainage and sewerage network in the years ahead, and will complement other planning documents including LDPs, the NDF, and SDPs. To maximise the potential benefits, we are continuing to work closely with our stakeholders and LPAs in the continued development of our DWMP.
INF1: Planning Obligations Where there is insufficient infrastructure capacity available to accommodate a site and development wishes to connect in advance of any AMP capital investment, planning obligations or a commercial agreement are the most appropriate way in ensuring delivery of necessary supporting infrastructure.
INF4: Llanelli Wastewater Treatment Surface Water Disposal We are supportive of the provisions of this policy and the supporting text; moreover, we are pleased to note that the matter has been given its own specific policy. We have also prepared a consultation response to the Burry Inlet SPG which provides further detail on this matter.
SP10: Gypsy and Traveller Provision - Please see appendix 1 for site allocation comments.

SP12: Placemaking and Sustainable Places We specifically welcome the inclusion of criteria k) in Policy SP12. Disposing of surface water in a sustainable manner ensures that it will not communicate with the public sewerage network, which protects the environment and ensures that there is sufficient capacity in the public sewerage network for foul-only flows from development sites. On the theme of SuDS, we welcome the inclusion of the supporting text at paragraphs 11.273 to 11.275 regarding the recently established SuDS Approval Boards (SABs).
PSD3: Green Infrastructure Network We welcome the provisions of this policy and the supporting text. The integration of SuDS as a Green Infrastructure asset is something that we are particularly supportive of.
SP16: Climate Change We are supportive of the inclusion of SuDS in new development and as such welcome the provisions of criterion b) of this policy.
CCH4: Water Quality and Protection of Water Resources we welcome the requirement in supporting paragraph 11.510 that the necessary infrastructure needs to be in place or will be provided to serve development however we would highlight that in cases where there are no plans in place for infrastructure improvements in our AMP investment programme, developers can pay for the necessary infrastructure themselves through the requisition provisions of the Water Industry Act (WIA) 1991 or via Planning Obligations Agreements under the TCPA 1990. It should be noted that the requisition provision of the WIA 1991 only applies to sewerage network reinforcement works, not to WwTW schemes. Funding to deliver reinforcement works at a WwTW can be delivered via Section 106 of the Town and Country Planning Act 1990.
In relation to improving water quality, we are investing an additional £60m specifically to reduce phosphate in the five failing Special Area of Conservation (SAC) rivers in our operating area. This includes schemes at Lampeter and Llanybydder WwTWs that are due for completion by March 2025. In the next investment period 2025 to 2030 (AMP8) we will target investment with the ambition that none of our WwTWs are the cause of ecological failure. Through our phosphorus investment plan, we will have removed 90% of the phosphorus load from our WwTWs discharging to failing SAC rivers, playing our part in allowing these special rivers to meet their water quality targets and to relieve pressure on development restrictions. We expect to complete this programme of work by 2032. Whilst our investment will remove a significant amount of phosphorus from our sewage, in most cases it will not result in SACs complying with the water quality targets on its own. This is not something that Welsh Water can do on its own and it will take the combined efforts of all the contributing sectors to achieve this.

We will be engaging with our regulators and local planning authorities through the Tywi and Teifi Nutrient Management Boards (NMB) which can provide the governance, strategic direction and local intelligence/decision making needed if we are to be successful in relieving the pressure on planning restrictions and restoring river quality.
With regard to supporting text in paragraph 11.516, there are several locations within the County where we abstract water that is treated prior to entering the public water supply network. As such, we fully support the provisions in the supporting text of this policy in preventing the degradation of water resources.

TRA1: Transport and Highways Infrastructure Improvements There may be locations where proposed developments / routes pass over public sewers and water mains. Under the Water Industry Act 1991 we have rights to always access our apparatus and protection measures in respect of these assets will be required either in the form of an easement width or a possible diversion of the asset. We welcome early engagement once further detail is available.
MR1: Minerals Proposals We welcome the inclusion of criterion e) and k) of this policy.
We hope that the above information will assist you as you continue to progress the LDP2 and would encourage the LPA to continue to liaise with Welsh Water at each stage of the process. In the meantime, should you require any further information please do not hesitate to contact us at Forward.Plans@dwrcymru.com or via telephone on 0800 917 2652.